iluvk9 wrote:May I ask why you are against invisible fences? You know me and I am a softie for dogs...it's just that someone once said to me: "Either I get the invisible fence or my dog will be maimed or killed by a car in front of my house."
iluvk9 wrote:She has had luck with it and after a year or so, the dog doesn't wear the collar and doesn't attempt to leave.
mnp13 wrote:iluvk9 wrote:She has had luck with it and after a year or so, the dog doesn't wear the collar and doesn't attempt to leave.
yet.... and when it does, it will likely be dead. I can't tell you the number of "find toto" listings I get that include "wearing Invisible Fence collar" in the description.
pitbullmamaliz wrote:...I don't use aversives on my dog...
iluvk9 wrote:mnp13 wrote:iluvk9 wrote:She has had luck with it and after a year or so, the dog doesn't wear the collar and doesn't attempt to leave.
yet.... and when it does, it will likely be dead. I can't tell you the number of "find toto" listings I get that include "wearing Invisible Fence collar" in the description.
Geez...Like JOYCE would be the one to advocate an invisible fence collar, a shock collar or even a pinch collar of ANY type??? I don't even like when people crate their dogs for more than four hours because I think it is cruel.
DemoDick wrote:pitbullmamaliz wrote:...I don't use aversives on my dog...
Minor point relative to this discussion, but yes, you most certainly do.
Demo Dick
pitbullmamaliz wrote:DemoDick wrote:pitbullmamaliz wrote:...I don't use aversives on my dog...
Minor point relative to this discussion, but yes, you most certainly do.
Demo Dick
You're right - I worded that poorly. I avoid using P+ on my dog whenever possible and I do not use correction/training collars.
DemoDick wrote:iluvk9 wrote:Geez...Like JOYCE would be the one to advocate an invisible fence collar, a shock collar or even a pinch collar of ANY type??? I don't even like when people crate their dogs for more than four hours because I think it is cruel.
Michelle was talking about what will likely happen to your friend's dog as a result of her reliance on Invisible Fence, not criticizing any advice you may have given her.
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